The Ashes

Jimmy Riddle
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Jimmy Riddle » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:35 pm

[quote="Tongham Shots"][quote="Chobham Shot"][quote="Disturbed Postie"]Is it gonna be a third 5-0 whitewash down under in 4 series?[/quote]

Yes[/quote]

Thought this thread would be more upbeat after the boys' magnificent efforts today.
Still a long way to go but we're going to win 4-1. :lol: (copyright Barmy Army) :lol:[/quote]

Hope your right Rob. Skittled out while adding about 50 before we wake up would be my guess.

At least we are likely to see Vince for the whole season in 2018 to help us avoid relegation for the 3rd season running on the last day....
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Tongham Shots » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:00 pm

Jimmy Riddle wrote:
Tongham Shots wrote:
Chobham Shot wrote:
Yes


Thought this thread would be more upbeat after the boys' magnificent efforts today.
Still a long way to go but we're going to win 4-1. :lol: (copyright Barmy Army) :lol:


Hope your right Rob. Skittled out while adding about 50 before we wake up would be my guess.

At least we are likely to see Vince for the whole season in 2018 to help us avoid relegation for the 3rd season running on the last day....[/quote

I think we have a good chance actually John, obviously mainly dependant on Root. The conditions should favour the batsman in the first hour(sun out and an old ball for the Aussies to bowl with) so if we come through that relatively unscathed - then game most definitely on.
Anyway whatever happens, looking forward to the Shots demolishing the Fax on Saturday. 8)
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Nobby » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:21 am

It's the hope I can't stand! :(
Ancient Shot
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Ancient Shot » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:53 am

yeah really glad I got up at 3:15 to watch that!
Jimmy Riddle
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Jimmy Riddle » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:05 am

Woke up at 5.30 to confirm my expectations.

We will do well to avoid yet another 5-0. Feel sorry for the working class fans out there paying all that money.

Will Bayliss, Root and co refund their travels costs similar to the very kind thoughts of Bazza after Chester?

A 5-0 series whitewash is not too different to an 8-2 thrashing....
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Aldershot_Rob » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:55 am

If you follow England out to Oz expecting a refund then you're an idiot. This is England for Christ sake, they will always let you down.

Batting has been shocking again. I'd bin Cook, 2 tests and you can count his total runs on all digits in Swindon.
There again, none of the others have produced either.
Jimmy Riddle
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Jimmy Riddle » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:03 am

It was a joke Rob. Watched England play a test in Barbados once and was biggest disappointment ever. About 80% of the crowd were English and over half city toff types. Fortunately pre Barmy army days.

Best part was watching England play a warm up at the University ground and the yellow bus ride home after the test match.
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Re: The Ashes

Postby shotshammo » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:39 am

Is it poor concentration, or sloppy batting technique, with so much more interest in the short game, is Test Match cricket becoming a thing of the past, with peoples attention span getting shorter and shorter. The Australians have a couple of batsmen who want to stay there all day and that seems to be the difference at the moment.
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Re: The Ashes

Postby aldershot-jg » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:41 am

That was quite simply pathetic. Unsurprising that Root was out early on, gets himself in by the end of play and when the morning play resumes he rarely adds to his total. Too often our middle and tail have saved the top order but everyone is struggling.

The whole preparation for this Ashes has been wrong. This isn't even a good Australia team yet we are making them look good. They will win the Ashes and then lose them again when they play here.
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Re: The Ashes

Postby tonygodfrey » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:43 pm

When the ball swings we have arguably the best bowling attack in the world. But Australian wickets are generally fast and the Kookaburra ball tends to hold its line.

For various reasons we seem not to produce many genuinely quick bowlers which are a much greater threat out there than fast/mediums.

When the Aussie bowlers really go for it we struggle to bat well partly due to the conditions but also because of lack of experience against genuinely hostile pace.

Will be very surprised if we manage to turn it around in Perth but that doesn't mean we'll suddenly have a useless team on more familiar wickets.
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Josh » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:38 pm

Absolutely no let up from 4 high quality bowlers so there's no breathing space. Every innings they each pick up 2-3 wickets compared to England who have a number of 0 for. Even when we bowled them out for 138, it was down to two bowlers.

Would expect to beat them in our conditions, which is one of the biggest problems in cricket, very few teams are capable away from home.
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Ancient Shot » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:51 pm

That's why their bowlers are so fast. Flat wickets in Oz mean you only have pace as a weapon so you have to be 90 mph or thereabouts

They are shown up over here when a bit of guile and skill is involved on different pitches and in different conditions

That's still no excuse for the way we bowled on the first day having put them in though
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Reg's corner » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:27 am

Let's face it, we can't compete in their conditions they can't compete in ours. Throw in the fact we haven't replaced bell prior and peterson.. The new lads are struggling..
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Jammer » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:37 pm

we shouldn't be suprised, we were thrashed in India . We do well on home turf and fine against '2nd class' teams (no disrespect) but we've always been partial to a batting collapse with players suffering from a rush of blood.

Cook usually very steady, dont think he deserves to be dropped.

Malan has been a good addition and Stoneman will get there, some of these lads not long been in Test cricket and to play in the Ashes in Australia is huge pressure. Stokes loss a big mental barrier, but dont think he would of made the difference anyway.
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Re: The Ashes

Postby Disturbed Postie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:49 pm

We've had a couple of spells at number 1 in the test rankings int last decade or so but unfortunately doesn't last long, the Aussies had a good 15 years in the 90's to 05!

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