Division North and South

shotshammo
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Re: Division North and South

Post by shotshammo » Sun May 17, 2020 4:30 pm

The problem with North and South leagues as has been discussed many times before is what happens when the teams from Division 1 that get relegated are all from, either the north or the south.
Assuming 4 teams go down from Div 1 where do they go.
There would be a continue juggling of the teams changing from one league to another, to maintain a sensible geographic. Teams like Cambridge for example.
With one assuming 2 from each league going up and 4 going down, how would the div 1 teams feel about it.
Is the next step after that having a North and South Div 1.
Logistically you could argue ambitious players would not have to live so far from their families and travelling would be less stressful.

Chalkie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Chalkie » Sun May 17, 2020 4:51 pm

Birdman wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm
Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:54 am
78000 people live in Guildford they can support a football club
They already have a football club (they play in the Combined Counties league). The locals just need to get behind it a lot more.
Guildford's main sport is Ice Hockey.
Guildford Flames have an average of 1,800 attending their home games.
In contrast, in the 2014/15 season, Guildford FC had a season home average of 99.

Charles Dickens
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Charles Dickens » Sun May 17, 2020 5:01 pm

If my memory is correct we had this before in the Football League and I don`t recall it being a problem.However,I don`t know why it was changed way back then?

Over recent times many lower league clubs like Aldershot have demonstrated that the financial burden of being in a National League is not sustainable.

The Footbal League need to grab the bull by the horns while football is in its present limbo state.

westy
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Re: Division North and South

Post by westy » Sun May 17, 2020 5:39 pm

Who says the Shots will never play at the rec again. How can you say that, seems you can see into the future. Just your opinion, of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I think you are wrong. What makes you think Guildford City will still be going, no fans no support, no ground of their own. Regional leagues, OK, yes maybe, don't see what Guildford have got to do with anything.

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Re: Division North and South

Post by lowerbourneshot » Sun May 17, 2020 6:18 pm

Fishing lakes are open again.

Crowthorne
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Crowthorne » Sun May 17, 2020 6:20 pm

Fuggletim wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 2:47 pm
Could say the same about Hartlepool, Scunthorpe and quite few other places that are run down but still support a football club.
Just, also both Scunthorpe and Hatlepool have significantly bigger populations. Aldershot has a population of around 40,000, I don't count Rushmoor as a whole as most people in Rushmoor have little interest in ATFC.
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Crowthorne
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Crowthorne » Sun May 17, 2020 6:25 pm

Shots91 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:07 pm
Plymouth
Swindon
Exeter
Cheltenham
Colchester
Forest Green
Crawley
Newport
Cambridge
Leyton orient
Stevenage
Yeovil
Borehamwood
Woking
Barnet
Dover
Bromley
Sutton
Torquay
Eastleigh
Aldershot
Daggenham
Ebbsfleet
Maidenhead

There you go someone already done it for league 2 with NL 24 teams a league
I'd be happy with that for now
All very good but that's if there are still enough clubs around to fill the leagues.

Alex
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Alex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:45 pm

Never been a fan of this and never will be.

Enjoy some of the longer journeys.

Won’t work anyway and I don’t think it’ll happen.

Oliver11
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Oliver11 » Sun May 17, 2020 7:51 pm

Makes sense to me from a financial aspect - more away fans / bigger attendance's, less travelling, no overnight stays.

Most clubs were struggling before all this and with the enforced break the ideal opportunity to reconfigure the leagues.

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Sun May 17, 2020 8:02 pm

Alex wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 7:45 pm
Never been a fan of this and never will be.

Enjoy some of the longer journeys.

Won’t work anyway and I don’t think it’ll happen.
I agree with your first and second bits but not the third, unfortunately

Dr Jim Royle
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Dr Jim Royle » Sun May 17, 2020 8:10 pm

Cannot see it ever working as regionally you'd likely have to move teams around every season depending on who went up and came down.

PLUS ..... it only ever gets discussed on Football Websites, seemingly never on the actual Committee table !!

Plus, Rob only ever asks me to do Radio Gigs when playing teams in the back & beyond :lol:

Crowthorne
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Crowthorne » Sun May 17, 2020 8:27 pm

Oliver11 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 7:51 pm
Makes sense to me from a financial aspect - more away fans / bigger attendance's, less travelling, no overnight stays.

Most clubs were struggling before all this and with the enforced break the ideal opportunity to reconfigure the leagues.
Very sensible post. Trouble is football and common sense rarely go together.

NTR_12
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Re: Division North and South

Post by NTR_12 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:57 pm

Alex wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 7:45 pm
Never been a fan of this and never will be.

Enjoy some of the longer journeys.

Won’t work anyway and I don’t think it’ll happen.
Apart from having a day on the beer, is there any other argument in favour of keeping it national?

I think it’s far more likely that they find a way of merging the NL with the NLS and NLN as I can’t see the League Two clubs agreeing to it.

Whilst it makes perfect sense, it feels like this would benefit NL sides far more than it would L2 teams. I’m not sure that Plymouth would see the benefit of playing Ebbsfleet and Maidenhead in league fixtures.

NTR_12
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Re: Division North and South

Post by NTR_12 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm

Chalkie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Birdman wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm
Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:54 am
78000 people live in Guildford they can support a football club
They already have a football club (they play in the Combined Counties league). The locals just need to get behind it a lot more.
Guildford's main sport is Ice Hockey.
Guildford Flames have an average of 1,800 attending their home games.
In contrast, in the 2014/15 season, Guildford FC had a season home average of 99.
Guildford’s basketball team also get around 1,000 for most home games.

There’s an interest in sport there, just not football.

Anon E Mouse
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Anon E Mouse » Sun May 17, 2020 11:19 pm

NTR_12 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm
Chalkie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Birdman wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm


They already have a football club (they play in the Combined Counties league). The locals just need to get behind it a lot more.
Guildford's main sport is Ice Hockey.
Guildford Flames have an average of 1,800 attending their home games.
In contrast, in the 2014/15 season, Guildford FC had a season home average of 99.
Guildford’s basketball team also get around 1,000 for most home games.

There’s an interest in sport there, just not football.
Not surprised. I saw them last year and it’s proper park football About 30 in attendance too.


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