Division North and South

Red-n-Blue
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Red-n-Blue » Mon May 18, 2020 9:21 am

NTR_12 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm
Chalkie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Birdman wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm


They already have a football club (they play in the Combined Counties league). The locals just need to get behind it a lot more.
Guildford's main sport is Ice Hockey.
Guildford Flames have an average of 1,800 attending their home games.
In contrast, in the 2014/15 season, Guildford FC had a season home average of 99.
Guildford’s basketball team also get around 1,000 for most home games.

There’s an interest in sport there, just not football.
Maybe there's an interest in basketball and ice hockey because both can be watched in modern venues with family-friendly facilities. There's something about old-school football grounds which appeals, but primarily to those who revel in the nostalgic element.

Sad as it is, we'll never attract families to The Rec as it is.

scorp
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Re: Division North and South

Post by scorp » Mon May 18, 2020 10:09 am

Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:54 am
78000 people live in Guildford they can support a football club
Some do. The club is ATFC.

AMJS007
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Re: Division North and South

Post by AMJS007 » Mon May 18, 2020 11:44 am

Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 2:16 pm
The shots will never play at rec again the ground is not fit for purpose. Health and safety won’t allow it. and I don’t no if you. Saw birdman on this site no maintenance being covered at the moment says it all
Won’t be for a while but the Shots will play at The Rec again, try being positive it actually makes you feel good you know :)

hepcat
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Re: Division North and South

Post by hepcat » Mon May 18, 2020 12:54 pm

scorp wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 10:09 am
Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:54 am
78000 people live in Guildford they can support a football club
Some do. The club is ATFC.
A few maybe-those that were about in the 70's Division 3 days, but most tend to follow the big London clubs; I remember Chelsea once had a shop in Guildford. Plus there's a lot to do in the Town on a Saturday (pre virus) rather than travel to Aldershot for a game sad to say.

Cph.shots
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Cph.shots » Mon May 18, 2020 12:59 pm

NTR_12 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm
Chalkie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Birdman wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm


They already have a football club (they play in the Combined Counties league). The locals just need to get behind it a lot more.
Guildford's main sport is Ice Hockey.
Guildford Flames have an average of 1,800 attending their home games.
In contrast, in the 2014/15 season, Guildford FC had a season home average of 99.
Guildford’s basketball team also get around 1,000 for most home games.

There’s an interest in sport there, just not football.
.......and wold imagine the ones that are interested in football go to Woking or glory hunting in london.

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Re: Division North and South

Post by Cph.shots » Mon May 18, 2020 1:02 pm

shotshammo wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:30 pm
The problem with North and South leagues as has been discussed many times before is what happens when the teams from Division 1 that get relegated are all from, either the north or the south.
Assuming 4 teams go down from Div 1 where do they go.
There would be a continue juggling of the teams changing from one league to another, to maintain a sensible geographic. Teams like Cambridge for example.
With one assuming 2 from each league going up and 4 going down, how would the div 1 teams feel about it.
Is the next step after that having a North and South Div 1.
Logistically you could argue ambitious players would not have to live so far from their families and travelling would be less stressful.
...isn't it the same problem when teams go down from NL, they have to juggle a it if there are too many from the North or South.

Birdman
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Birdman » Mon May 18, 2020 1:26 pm

Cph.shots wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:02 pm
shotshammo wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:30 pm
The problem with North and South leagues as has been discussed many times before is what happens when the teams from Division 1 that get relegated are all from, either the north or the south.
Assuming 4 teams go down from Div 1 where do they go.
There would be a continue juggling of the teams changing from one league to another, to maintain a sensible geographic. Teams like Cambridge for example.
With one assuming 2 from each league going up and 4 going down, how would the div 1 teams feel about it.
Is the next step after that having a North and South Div 1.
Logistically you could argue ambitious players would not have to live so far from their families and travelling would be less stressful.
...isn't it the same problem when teams go down from NL, they have to juggle a it if there are too many from the North or South.
There shouldn’t be any real problem with regional league allocation. Any clubs that will be affected by this will be those in a ‘belt’ (maybe 30 miles north ———> south) across the middle area of the country, Welsh border to the Norfolk coast. Burton for example were a club that fluctuated between north and south of the regional leagues that they were in at the time. I accept that there will at times be what I would call exceptional circumstances/anomalies where clubs that we would consider southern would be moved to the northern league, recent examples being Bishops Stortford and Oxford City who played in Conference North 2-3 years ago. So no, not an insurmountable problem by any means.

Chobham Shot
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Chobham Shot » Mon May 18, 2020 1:52 pm

NTR_12 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:57 pm
Alex wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 7:45 pm
Never been a fan of this and never will be.

Enjoy some of the longer journeys.

Won’t work anyway and I don’t think it’ll happen.
Apart from having a day on the beer, is there any other argument in favour of keeping it national?
Yes, clubs like Wrexham, Chesterfield, York, Fax, etc bring more away fans than local hobby clubs like Eastleigh, the Wood, Bromley, Ebbsfleet, etc.

EastbankAndy
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Re: Division North and South

Post by EastbankAndy » Mon May 18, 2020 1:59 pm

Yes let’s set the game back 40 years with regional football. Fantastic idea. If you want regional footy, play on a Sunday or drop down to the NLS. St Albans away or Halifax Town away? I know what I’d prefer. Can’t see the FA and EFL changing to regional anyway.....

lanternhall
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Re: Division North and South

Post by lanternhall » Mon May 18, 2020 2:24 pm

Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:54 am
78000 people live in Guildford they can support a football club
I respect and agree with a lot of your posts Heron wood but if we merge with Guildford or any other club it is no longer Aldershot Town. Or all the history of new and old club.
MK Dons wasn't Wimbledon.

Birdman
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Birdman » Mon May 18, 2020 2:39 pm

EastbankAndy wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:59 pm
Yes let’s set the game back 40 years with regional football. Fantastic idea. If you want regional footy, play on a Sunday or drop down to the NLS. St Albans away or Halifax Town away? I know what I’d prefer. Can’t see the FA and EFL changing to regional anyway.....
In an ideal football world I’d agree with you, Andy, but for now this virus has knocked many clubs for six. A lot of ‘cutting your cloth to fit’ finance wise will (or should be) the order. If less travel costs and part-time players help clubs (including ours) to survive then I feel that we should give it serious consideration. It’s maybe not what many supporters want but if it keeps our club going then let’s not reject regional football out of hand.

Ps: I sent you a PM a few days ago.

Heron wood shot 1964
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Heron wood shot 1964 » Mon May 18, 2020 3:09 pm

Welcome back mr hall. you are so right we have history and on reflection I was wrong. and would not won’t to merge with anyone. but we must survive at what level I don’t no. are ground will dictate that

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm

Yes welcome back MR hall!

lanternhall
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Re: Division North and South

Post by lanternhall » Mon May 18, 2020 3:17 pm

The problem is the ground. You are 100% right. I was really hopeful about new lease but now who knows?

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Re: Division North and South

Post by lanternhall » Mon May 18, 2020 3:17 pm

Disturbed Postie wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm
Yes welcome back MR hall!
Thank you.


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