Division North and South

Crowthorne
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Crowthorne » Mon May 18, 2020 3:23 pm

Disturbed Postie wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm
Yes welcome back MR hall!
Seconded all we need now is TFC.

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Mon May 18, 2020 3:27 pm

Mr hall is ShotsWeb equivalent of the tennis 🎾 player John McEnroe in that he brings a particular excitement on to the board!

Shot through (& throu
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Shot through (& throu » Mon May 18, 2020 3:33 pm

You can not be serious.

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Mon May 18, 2020 3:37 pm

The ball was on the line 😡

Alfie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Alfie » Mon May 18, 2020 4:31 pm

I can remember when we had Third Divisions North & South ( I watched in 1940's early 50's )

It worked well . Teams were promoted but relegation was on a league voting system involving the teams at the bottom.
This enabled the regional balance to be retained.
We did not have a national motorway system then so national travel for small clubs would have been difficult.

I do remember that Peterborough appeared sometimes in the Southern division and the Northern at other times .
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Turnkey
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Turnkey » Mon May 18, 2020 5:31 pm

Crowthorne wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:23 pm
Disturbed Postie wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm
Yes welcome back MR hall!
Seconded all we need now is TFC.
He’s still here, just under another name

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Mon May 18, 2020 5:34 pm

Turnkey wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:31 pm
Crowthorne wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:23 pm
Disturbed Postie wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm
Yes welcome back MR hall!
Seconded all we need now is TFC.
He’s still here, just under another name
You 100% on that?

Turnkey
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Turnkey » Mon May 18, 2020 6:02 pm

Disturbed Postie wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:34 pm
Turnkey wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:31 pm
Crowthorne wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:23 pm

Seconded all we need now is TFC.
He’s still here, just under another name
You 100% on that?
Let’s just say it’s an educated guess 😉

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Mon May 18, 2020 6:08 pm

Turnkey wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 6:02 pm
Disturbed Postie wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:34 pm
Turnkey wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:31 pm


He’s still here, just under another name
You 100% on that?
Let’s just say it’s an educated guess 😉
3 word name I reckon

Oliver11
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Oliver11 » Mon May 18, 2020 6:50 pm

EastbankAndy wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:59 pm
Yes let’s set the game back 40 years with regional football. Fantastic idea. If you want regional footy, play on a Sunday or drop down to the NLS. St Albans away or Halifax Town away? I know what I’d prefer. Can’t see the FA and EFL changing to regional anyway.....
Common Sense.

National League isn't Professional and can't sustain itself financial. What's the point of EVERY season struggling to pay your bills.

If you make the genuine football league then get the rewards of playing and affording the status that comes with it.

NTR_12
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Re: Division North and South

Post by NTR_12 » Mon May 18, 2020 10:12 pm

Chobham Shot wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:52 pm
NTR_12 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:57 pm
Alex wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 7:45 pm
Never been a fan of this and never will be.

Enjoy some of the longer journeys.

Won’t work anyway and I don’t think it’ll happen.
Apart from having a day on the beer, is there any other argument in favour of keeping it national?
Yes, clubs like Wrexham, Chesterfield, York, Fax, etc bring more away fans than local hobby clubs like Eastleigh, the Wood, Bromley, Ebbsfleet, etc.
Even the 100 or so that come here from the aforementioned “hobby clubs” is better than the 20-30 that we get from Harrogate, Fylde, Chorley etc.

Over the course of the season we would have considerably more away fans at The Rec in a regional league.

scorp
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Re: Division North and South

Post by scorp » Tue May 19, 2020 9:55 am

Oliver11 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 6:50 pm
EastbankAndy wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:59 pm
Yes let’s set the game back 40 years with regional football. Fantastic idea. If you want regional footy, play on a Sunday or drop down to the NLS. St Albans away or Halifax Town away? I know what I’d prefer. Can’t see the FA and EFL changing to regional anyway.....
Common Sense.

National League isn't Professional and can't sustain itself financial. What's the point of EVERY season struggling to pay your bills.

If you make the genuine football league then get the rewards of playing and affording the status that comes with it.
A national league of some sort or as is would be more financially viable if clubs without sugar daddies went part time. ATFC did very well, part time, once upon a time in the Conference, and Woking did well this season just ended as part time. However, there is still the issue of how to recover from the financial losses (and etc - including the looming recession or, more likely, depression] imposed by this bloody virus. One final point, Oliver: the combined debt of football league clubs was some £600m before the lockdown. The National League is no exception to not being financially viable, but i'm sure we all know that by now, or we all will very soon. If the government goes for a post WWII-type spending splurge, as has been suggested - and might be necessary - it might want to look at support for the football pyramid, but any support mustn't be a bottomless pit, or nothing changes.

ShotOnTarget
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Re: Division North and South

Post by ShotOnTarget » Tue May 19, 2020 11:37 am

Chalkie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:51 pm
Guildford's main sport is Ice Hockey.
Guildford Flames have an average of 1,800 attending their home games.
NTR_12 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:58 pm
Guildford’s basketball team also get around 1,000 for most home games.
Interesting but I wonder if they would be quite so enthusiastic if they were watching it in a stadium approching dilapidation and being constantly told that that a financial abyss was just around the corner? Many people just want to watch sport and don't want the emotional burdens that Shots Fans endure. It's also why people like to 'support' PL clubs. They do so because they don't have to investing emotional energy and witness contstant disappointment and charades that dominate the primary discourse.

Dom Sterlings Left Leg
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Dom Sterlings Left Leg » Tue May 19, 2020 12:01 pm

What actual evidence is there that says having a regional league at this level will make things any cheaper?

What difference in expenditure is there in an away game at Torquay or Bath compared to one at Harrogate or Halifax?

I dont really see it other than perhaps some marginal savings on travel costs..

Disturbed Postie
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Re: Division North and South

Post by Disturbed Postie » Tue May 19, 2020 12:13 pm

I’d take Halifax over Bromley any day except for a Tuesday night game!


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