Interesting Debates on Facebook

IanShots
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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by IanShots » Sat May 14, 2022 7:14 pm

Woking

Look at their prices for a season ticket for that age group.

Super Sarll’s Early Bird Prices (available until April 30th)
• Adult: £199
• Concession / OAP: £199
• Next Gen (16 - 22): £84
• Under 16: £49

Standard Early Bird Prices (available from 1st May – 15th June)
• Adult: £219
• Concession / OAP: £219
• Next Gen (16 - 22): £89
• Under 16: £49

Full Price (available 16th June - start of the season)
• Adult: £329
• Concession / OAP): £229
• Next Gen (16 - 22): £119
• Under 16: £69

supershots
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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by supershots » Sat May 14, 2022 7:54 pm

Why do the club insist on sending out these things on facebook/twitter when alot of our supporters do not bother with them, a good communicator would use all methods available to catch all supporters :shock:

Sorry Mark not getting at you, but you must realise that not all bother with twitface!

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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by Josh » Sat May 14, 2022 8:15 pm

Probably because social media is a hugely effective way in getting information out there.

Not many 20 year olds would choose spending £20 watching utter dross over alternative entertainment.

Kids should be free.

Mark Butler does a superb job in generating revenue for the club.

Finally, in response to DR, no, I am not grateful to the board for running up a massive debt and leaving us fighting constant relegation. One year we will fall through the trap door. The Wrexham owners were looking for any club last year. Could have been us.
Instead, they'll leave it to the manager to take the flack.

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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by supershots » Sat May 14, 2022 9:08 pm

Josh wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 8:15 pm
Probably because social media is a hugely effective way in getting information out there.

Not many 20 year olds would choose spending £20 watching utter dross over alternative entertainment.

Kids should be free.

Mark Butler does a superb job in generating revenue for the club.

Finally, in response to DR, no, I am not grateful to the board for running up a massive debt and leaving us fighting constant relegation. One year we will fall through the trap door. The Wrexham owners were looking for any club last year. Could have been us.
Instead, they'll leave it to the manager to take the flack.
Your missing my point, just because the young twitface why exclude the "normal" ones who don't use it, after all you are trying to reach as many as possible.

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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by redblueuptoyou » Sat May 14, 2022 9:10 pm

supershots wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 7:54 pm
Why do the club insist on sending out these things on facebook/twitter when alot of our supporters do not bother with them, a good communicator would use all methods available to catch all supporters :shock:

Sorry Mark not getting at you, but you must realise that not all bother with twitface!
Which methods do the club not use? As far as I can tell, they update the website and social channels then people like Birdman update on here. Where else would you find the information?

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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by hepcat » Sat May 14, 2022 9:19 pm

Jason wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 6:43 pm
Cph.shots wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 6:03 pm
TracoShot wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 4:07 pm

Zero hours contracts ? Minimum wage ? Cost of living increases ? Future long term supporters of the club ? I think this is a key supporter area to concentrate on but what do I know. Time will tell if the club have got this right with the gates we see next season.
Valid points.
Do you know of any other clubs that offer discounts to that age group?
There are quite a few that offer what they call a "Young Person" ticket, with varying degrees of the age range.

Brentford for instance offer 18-24. Forest Green do 18-21, Wycombe do a 19-21 and a 22-25.

There are plenty of options out there. This is an age bracket that need to be targeted, along with kids. They are the ones that are going to keep the club going for years to come. It is short sighted in my opinion to look at what they can pay now, against what they will hopefully pay for the rest of their lives.

I'd be interested to know the demographics of our support base. I dont see many around that are of the 30-40 age bracket, despite the fact this age group would have been in their late teens and early 20s during our successful rise up the leagues. Were they priced out?

I think my disappointment with the ticket prices is although I understand the want to maximise revenue by keeping the prices at a reasonable level for the club there is little in the way of ideas to incentivise people to attend. Ideas have been mentioned aplenty;

- 18 to twenty-something tickets
- Better family tickets
- Discount for booking online in advance (which surely helps the clubs with pre-planning what resources are required)
- Block purchases of tickets (allowing a small discount - certainly not as great as a season ticket).

I am sure there are more.

I know the club have said as one example the 18 to twenty something age bracket abuse discounted tickets by lying about age, but that could be rectified by making the tickets only available for pre-purchase online by members who have had their age pre-verified at the start of the season.

There just needs to be more thought put into it in my mind.
From personal observation I see a lot of young teens at places like Maidenhead and other non league grounds but fewer at Aldershot They like making a noise and forming "Ultra" groups. There seems to be a taste for the non league game amongst the young if the price is right and they have a place to shout. I think we're definitely missing a trick.

Dr Jim Royle
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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by Dr Jim Royle » Sat May 14, 2022 11:45 pm

Well, as now an OAP, Woeking certainly wont be getting me going to any of their matches. Look after young pups, BAH

I fought on the beaches of Brighton in late 60/70’s. I had to wear Flares when still in my teens. Getting into away ends at football meant you had to wear your scarves on your wrists. I flirted with Punk.

AND YET AT WOEKING I’M A MERE ADULT.

Disrespectful.

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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by GetShotDownunder » Sun May 15, 2022 12:17 am

hepcat wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 9:19 pm
From personal observation I see a lot of young teens at places like Maidenhead and other non league grounds but fewer at Aldershot They like making a noise and forming "Ultra" groups. There seems to be a taste for the non league game amongst the young if the price is right and they have a place to shout. I think we're definitely missing a trick.
With all seater stadiums, expensive ticketing and "overbearing" commercialism in place at the top of the game this is were I can see a possible long term strategy for smaller clubs to exist.

New wiz bang facilities in the north stand, lick of paint on existing terracing (wherever possible) and Bob's your uncle.. 😅
It's not just 90 minutes when it's modern day life support! ❤️💙

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Re: Interesting Debates on Facebook

Post by ShotOnTarget » Sun May 15, 2022 12:12 pm

hepcat wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 9:19 pm
Jason wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 6:43 pm
Cph.shots wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 6:03 pm

Valid points.
Do you know of any other clubs that offer discounts to that age group?
There are quite a few that offer what they call a "Young Person" ticket, with varying degrees of the age range.

Brentford for instance offer 18-24. Forest Green do 18-21, Wycombe do a 19-21 and a 22-25.

There are plenty of options out there. This is an age bracket that need to be targeted, along with kids. They are the ones that are going to keep the club going for years to come. It is short sighted in my opinion to look at what they can pay now, against what they will hopefully pay for the rest of their lives.

I'd be interested to know the demographics of our support base. I dont see many around that are of the 30-40 age bracket, despite the fact this age group would have been in their late teens and early 20s during our successful rise up the leagues. Were they priced out?

I think my disappointment with the ticket prices is although I understand the want to maximise revenue by keeping the prices at a reasonable level for the club there is little in the way of ideas to incentivise people to attend. Ideas have been mentioned aplenty;

- 18 to twenty-something tickets
- Better family tickets
- Discount for booking online in advance (which surely helps the clubs with pre-planning what resources are required)
- Block purchases of tickets (allowing a small discount - certainly not as great as a season ticket).

I am sure there are more.

I know the club have said as one example the 18 to twenty something age bracket abuse discounted tickets by lying about age, but that could be rectified by making the tickets only available for pre-purchase online by members who have had their age pre-verified at the start of the season.

There just needs to be more thought put into it in my mind.
From personal observation I see a lot of young teens at places like Maidenhead and other non league grounds but fewer at Aldershot They like making a noise and forming "Ultra" groups. There seems to be a taste for the non league game amongst the young if the price is right and they have a place to shout. I think we're definitely missing a trick.
A friend of mine lives in Grays, Essex and his son and friends watch their football at Barnet. No connections with the place otherwise.

A business with more resources would be looking carefully at demographics and changing what they could to attract fresh blood. The problem seems to be a reluctance to adjust the price point accordingly due to short term financial considerations with the long term being off the radar. This has been the case for a long time now and is contributing to the fall in attendance figures.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


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